2005-03-04 12:23 am (UTC)
WooT WooT, Go SELF ESTEEM!!! ~laughs~ Kids can be so cruel, 'eh? Especially in canada, dude - - but then that's how out office workers are formed into gutless ass kissers who manage our taxes behind closed doors, sequestered in sterile cubicles. Woot Woot
When you say "Go self esteem!!!", do you mean (a) that this particular individual had good self-esteem or (b) that I am suffering from some sort of self-esteem issue? Sorry, it's hard to tell through writing sometimes, but I've prepared a response in either case:
(a) Well, I suppose it would dissappoint you if you learned that he very soon stopped wearing the hat. Sorry, but...he did. Caved into peer pressure, yep. He graduated, so he's no longer at my school. I don't know if he tried it at the University of Toronto, where he is now, but U of T is full of soulless minions of orthodoxy, so I'm sure they will break him down soon enough.
(b) I do NOT have a self-esteem issue, I reassure you. I am simply a genuinely terrible person. And yes, I do enjoy every minute of it.
I imagine that all kids around the world are cruel, not just Canadians. They're almost as bad as adults. I also imagine that most people, as according to Nietzsche, are already gutless ass kissers, and that slightly-less-gutless-ass-kissers take control. It is the way of things -- someone must do the taxes, afterall.
2005-03-04 11:31 pm (UTC)
Yeah - so sorry for the confusion ole chap, i wasn't refering to you and it's lovely u have high self-esteem (woot) And i wasn't really refering to dude with the hat but it's more of a general statement i say when self-esteem has so obviously been kicked down a notch. Most laugh when i do - - but i supose it's one of those "you have to be there" type of things. NEwho - i'm sure he'll never wear the hat again for fear of his peers etc. but then i'm not really attached to his feelings.. Yes - many kids are cruel and it's quite disheartning, makes me sad, prolly cause i have a little brother who's excluded from all his little school mates' activities cause he's the newe kid. But yeah - - thumbs up to salad fingers, though the ending of the fifth one wasn't comfortable.
Ah, je comprends. Perhaps it's something in your tone or inflection that just doesn't make it through when in written form.
Well, I'm all for a general self-esteem @$$-kicking every once in a while, even if it is my own. What goes around comes around, I suppose.
It is very unfortuate that kids are so generally mean to each other. It would be interesting to see if it's nature vs. nurture. Are we simply born with a tendancy to be mean to one another, or is it taught somehow? Of course, there have in fact been many a study towards this end, and they always conflict, so who knows where the truth lies.
Sorry to hear about your brother. I hated having to go to a new school, but I seemed to have managed decently enough. Took some time and some effort, but it all worked out in the end.
Thumbs up to Salad Fingers? Lol, not a bad pun. Salad Fingers is the greatest, in a morbid, disturbing sort of way. Especially number 5! 'Do you not like my mouth words?' :P
2005-03-06 01:36 am (UTC)
Oh, the good ole nature/nurture theory - - heard it so often in my soc class last sem, heh. Aww, but i so miss the discussions. Go benovian Chimps!(. . .or whatever those sexy chimps names were)
I would argue that it's mostly nurture for the child would be learning to adapt to it's environment's social scheme so it would follow Bandura's role model theory in first copying the parent(s) then building on that based on it's peers. (all children will be refered to as ITs HaHAHA!!!)
I also find the parents in this small town are quite clique-ish, jugmental, and into everyone's business. It seems as if the ole "familiarity breeds contempt" quote is being proved true 'cause everyone knows each other's secrets and the old decent gossip would be to spead them around, whoop!
Of course then there's other outside factors like the popular "power corupts and absolute power corupts absolutely" which is, GeNeRaLlY (NOT always) true. An interesting quip on tv was saying slavery actually (i)made(/i) the white masters bad people for it allowed them to beleive beating the slaves was an acceptable release of tension, that they (white) were superior, etc etc. But yeah, that's a whole 'nuther discussion.
Oh yeas, #5
was lovely - yet harsh in the end with the "slasher" moments. Stop scratching your tummy box. . HeHeHe. I elect you my new playmate.
Fortunately I never did take a sociology course, though the nature vs. nurture stuff certainly did seem to overflow into other courses. I'm not sure that 'sexy' is a term I'd use to describe any chimp, though. :P
I've never lived in a small community, so I only know the small-town social 'climate' from cliched books, movies, tv, stereotypes, and all those other wonderfully truthful things, though I would imagine you would get to know one another pretty well after a while. Being in a city does have its advantages. You can dissappear and it could take years for your next door neighbour to notice. I probably know half the people on my street, if that. But people are still judgmental, clique-ish and into each other's business in the city. Kids here are still nasty, irrational and quick to judge. I think that part's just natural to most people, then it's reinforced by society.
I doubt slavery 'made' the white masters bad. They had to want to own slaves, then mistreat them, to begin with. Once it became acceptable practice, yes, it did become easy to just follow along. Thus, people are sheep.
I like all the Salad Fingers. Maybe not number 3. That one was a different disturbing.